Kuperman For Lucas and Luis Paz. Supplement NO - Pagina 12, March 24, 2011 .- Gastón Gonçalves is known as bassist for Los Pericos, but fifteen years ago moved his family history not only rock but the entire society, Gaston is the son of a militant was arrested, disappeared and killed. He has a brother, now named Manuel, who for 19 years was Claudio Novoa, a young son also Gastón Gonçalves father, whose mother (other than the musician) was brutally murdered in Rosario, and recovered his identity in 1996, the work of the family and the Grandmothers of Plaza de Mayo. The story is well known. The novelty is that Gastón Gonçalves is three weeks of being the first Argentine rock Courts achieved in the last dictatorship responsible for paying for the appropriation of children of the disappeared. Gaston and Manuel are plaintiffs in the trial of five members of government forces for the abduction and disappearance of five militants, including his father, ending April 14. "The truth is that it is frightening to have the guys there, a few meters. But while it is very important they are. They could have at least a modicum of vindication 'religious', as a redemption, to talk about where they are the bodies of those still missing. But no shit at home and on the cross, "she vented Gaston against NO , at the end of the arguments of the defense of those who are judged by the Federal Oral Court No. 1 of San Martin, the former cop and mayor Escobar, Luis Patti, the dictator Reynaldo Bignone, the former commander Santiago Omar Riveros, former commissioner Juan Fernando Meneghini and former Army intelligence officer, Martin Rodriguez. courts Comodoro Py, San Martín, La Plata and others that are carrying out these trials are large buildings and grim, that only stop once internalized scare the stories told there. Entering the building, search the room, get the appropriate accreditation and to await the entry of judges has been in an uneasy peace, which ends when the police do enter the handcuffs. This is when victims and offenders meet in the same room, except when Queen's cowardice and torturers are not present to tell those stories horror stories outputs.
The strange postcard complete with dozens of rockers, punks, rastas or friends and Manuel Gaston, who come to support the cause. Bat People who interferes in the judicial bureaucracy to seek justice, which is attached dreadlocks, lowering the ridge flattens and enters the broomrape faces with their eyes dictators, repressive, rapists, kidnappers, murderers and thieves. Songs instead of hearing testimony about physical and psychic, including a story about a dip in a aguantadero in which a book of Leopoldo Marechal worked as toilet paper.
And the bad guys are in front, sitting, smiling occasionally, discussing things among them, looking through a witness who blindex hearings and, with the arrogance that always characterized them, seek to continue terrorizing. During the trial, which lasted more than six months, there were about 70 witnesses. "We had some threats in situations of great insecurity. For them is also difficult, some were kidnapped or were raised in homes where someone. But how hard it is for them and we relive the worst thing that happened in life, we tell the truth in front of them before they die. "
- The trial will end in three weeks." How was pierced?
Gaston: - Difficult. It is not nice, of course. It is impossible not to go to jail, but his arguments are trying to lower them a little punishment. Charges are very serious and very clear: there are a number of witnesses and indisputable facts, so they start with the idea Marxist invasion or try to disqualify. They have said that Manuel is not a child of whom claims to be, and that our father is hiding out there. Become triggers: no amount of evidence, but you have these guys in front that say they do not know if your dad is dead.
Manuel : - They question our dad has been kidnapped, it has been seen where it was seen that his body is the one found in '96, my age. Not legally defend themselves, defend their ideology. We do not deny the militancy of the victims, or what their political participation, or what they were, because it is not what is on trial. That the reivindicábamos angry and claimed that what was done by the militants.
Dinosaurs
Gaston remembers a very short poem of Leonard Cohen, in which Canada tries to portray a Nazi officer "normal eyes, hands, normal, normal teeth. What did you expect, they have claws? ". Beyond the physical matter, the NO Gonçalves coupled with understanding what you see when you come face to face with the guys who kidnapped your old, he was punished, was murdered and have still the filthy attitude of turning a blind eye. "Seeing them now is to see a grandfather an old man who is about to die. But the old man that killed your old man, "says Gaston. And Manuel, sitting beside him in a bar in Villa Urquiza, explains:" Whatever makes you such a situation is to ask the truth of the facts in your face. It gives you great security to have two meters on those responsible. Obviously it's an uncomfortable situation, no one is ready, but we work for this to be aired in a trial. "
- How about having a fair trial and legal custody?
Manuel : - Have all guarantees to exercise self-defense, which is fine, but even they disrespect for the law today, when intimidate and threaten witnesses, besides using all the arguments and legal tricks to delay there. The disappeared are still missing, our dad had the dictatorship from the first day of the coup, and yet they do today, after more than three decades, are not able to say where are the bodies, to have happened.
- When this is published, there will be 35 years since the kidnapping of his father and still needs to resolve the trial.
Manuel : - Yes, they had 35 years of impunity. We would wanted this to happen for at least 20 years. We understand that after leaving the dictatorship had to accommodate the institutions. But from the Trial of the Juntas had this happen. And yet lived a life with all the benefits given the position he had agreed. Still, the Justice must come, whether two days prisoners and die. What has to be established is that it was a genocide.
- This is where it becomes much broader.
Manuel : - Spend more strongly to be a matter of society, especially considering future generations. Our grandparents are not, they will not see justice, died seeing how these guys were still in positions of privilege, enjoying his life in freedom. But future generations are entitled to leave them another story, to pull up knowing that what was done, was convicted in a fair trial and that each paid their share, although it was late.
Gaston: - These guys are old, but they are alive. And it did not happen in other places: think they are trying to open it from Franco, who already live there are none, and can not. We are not talking about the battle of San Lorenzo, which may have been distorted during this time. Cabral do not know if San Martin told what counts. But this we know. And if there is a trial and a sentence, is for history. So that, within 200 years, the story told is true.
missing Grandchildren
Manuel Gonçalves is 35, but is named only 16. Until 1995 it was Claudio Novoa, a young man who liked rock, fan de Los Pericos adoptive parents and child, who was unaware that his father, Gastón Gonçalves activist, was kidnapped on March 24, 1976, and in November of that year, his mother and family had given them asylum in San Nicholas (Rosario) had been killed. Claudio learned that Manuel was when Grandma came up to him to tell his true story: I had an older brother. "He is a musician," he told the Grandmothers. Toca Los Pericos. " He brings to his room, facing a poster of the band and asked them what was said. "How did I survive?" Was your second question. His mother, second mate Gonçalves affective father, he had wrapped in a blanket and hidden in a closet before the house bursting stopped. There was found and then transferred to an orphanage where she was taken in good faith.
- Those 35 years mean that many children of the disappeared who are already parents. And there are three missing grandsons, eight, ten or fifteen years. Vos, Manuel, you have a child of ten who knew his true identity to all five. How did this to her?
Manuel : - Up to five, was Martina Novoa. When I got the documents, also had to change it, and became Martina Gonçalves. Was five and had to learn to write another name. She had doubts because I was going to be Claudio and Manuel, then asked me: "I'm not going to draw more Martina?". She went on to have another name, a father whose name was different, an uncle, three cousins. Gaston already had my three nephews. When I met the greatest, and ran, hugged me and said, "Hello Uncle." I was a kid, I was 19.
- With 19 years were leaving adolescence, identity somehow had your gun, your tastes, your habits. How do you drop that?
Manuel : - It was an uncomfortable situation, because you wonder how much you value what you have built so far, what do you do with your 19 years, in which already have "someone", you have friends, study something, you work for something. I thought I had left and was not only well but I was looking for, and it was alive because my mother had saved me. All those things you have to rearrange. I had a feeling that I could never explain, which I find an answer to know. I felt there was something else. It is a very common feeling in other grandchildren.
- if you look in a photo to your fourteen years, what do you see?
Manuel : - I can not look at pictures from when I was Claudio. I see the photo and no other person. Thing you call attention is the physical item. You look at a picture of his fifteen and perhaps frightened by the haircut. What I see is a person braking, he stayed there. From the moment you know, you can not be the same: no way to be beaten. Between 7 and 10 years had problems with tonsillitis. I caused a high fever, and gave me a lot of penicillin. The body of a baby can not stand as high fever, delirium and saw so clearly, but in the house where he lived at that time, soldiers doing shit all.
- Gaston, you you had 14 in '83. How did you get to democracy?
Gaston - You could see it was a government with all the intentions, but in a very difficult situation. At that point, we must have respect for Alfonsin: put on the witness stand in a position to murderers. Today, conditions are different, but there are still conditioned by the dictatorship government, which fell about Alfonsin and pardoned.
- now together, in 2003 shared the time of the annulment of the laws of obedience and endpoint. How did it feel?
Manuel : - It was a surprise to everyone because a guy did that and had to ask. If Néstor Kirchner, as president, had not taken the decision to promote that and trials, we could not have. No other government did, and it's a shame for all time that was lost. Since the inauguration of Kirchner, many claims that had families and agencies began to happen. There are many things that have not been done or achieved, but we'll keep asking for them. I think the best thing that can happen to a government is that we mark it as missing.
- This March 24, what do you think we should ask?
Manuel : - There is a big part of the population that feels it is something that went to another and that others did, did not enter into any group. There is a big mea culpa was not done. Around is impossible, because to achieve a collective mea culpa is very difficult. But part people do not do the exercise to analyze what he did to allow that to happen or to be silent. That inaction allowed many things happen.
- How do you feel to hear someone say "Let us cut off with the dictatorship"?
Gaston: - Sometimes you run across people who say it. What do you want? What I forget who killed my father? Lanata said that it is full balls they speak of the dictatorship. I apologize, but he burst the balls: they think all of us. It's like I tell you that I have filled balls that you talk to me you lost your old. Do not have heart? If you say that, you're a bastard.
* If you were born between 1975 and 1980 and have questions about your home, consult the case of grandchildren who are being searched at the site of the Grandmothers of Plaza de Mayo (abuelas.org.ar), comunicate to 4384 -0983 or introduce yourself at the headquarters of the Grandmothers, located in Ceballos Viceroy 592, Buenos Aires.
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